steve, what about you? you worry about this sales stumble? >> bill, i really do. i will tell you, the way oracle talked about its sales force, i don't think that those folks today are playing hooky from work and watching the ncaa tournament. i think they're making a lot of calls today. >> you think? >> but i don't know that it's just oracle-specific. i think it might be broader and more about technology capex spending. if you look about a month ago, we saw the purer cloud plays, and oracle is struggling right now in the cloud, but the purer cloud plays, companies like rack space, they dipped down about a month ago. now we're seeing the bigger, older tech giants like oracle, like cisco, for instance, start to similarly trail off. i think it is a sign that the global economy is weak, and companies, while they are very profitable, they are not reinvesting those profits into capex spending, whether it be in technology or elsewhere. so i think it's troubling for technology as a whole. >> wait a minute, are you guys agreeing with each other? >> i actually agree -- >> is